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	<title>Comments on: 1752 â€“ A Very Important Date</title>
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		<title>By: Carolyn L. Barkley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn L. Barkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment about editions. While I have the 1st edition on my home library shelves, I for some reason neglected to update it. There is now a third edition available (Genealogical Publishing Co., 2006), so clearly I will be making sure that I have the latest edition available here at home soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment about editions. While I have the 1st edition on my home library shelves, I for some reason neglected to update it. There is now a third edition available (Genealogical Publishing Co., 2006), so clearly I will be making sure that I have the latest edition available here at home soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn L. Barkley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn L. Barkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Author David Dobson, by private email, shared the following comment, posted here with his permission:

&quot;My knowledge on this topic is limited. My understanding is that the Gregorian calendar was introduced to sort out problems resulting from the previous calendar which was exactly 365 days long. Scotland did adopt the new calendar far earlier than England did, which caused some problems. In 1752 the Gregorian calendar was imposed by government decree on the whole of Britain. As a matter of interest certain long established seasonal customs in Scotland kept to the original dates, thus in parts of Shetland Christmas was celebrated on 6 January, while in Burghead, Moray, New Year&#039;s Eve was celebrated on 11 January. I understand that when the new calendar was introduced to England there were riots as some folk believed that their life spans were being reduced!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author David Dobson, by private email, shared the following comment, posted here with his permission:</p>
<p>&#8220;My knowledge on this topic is limited. My understanding is that the Gregorian calendar was introduced to sort out problems resulting from the previous calendar which was exactly 365 days long. Scotland did adopt the new calendar far earlier than England did, which caused some problems. In 1752 the Gregorian calendar was imposed by government decree on the whole of Britain. As a matter of interest certain long established seasonal customs in Scotland kept to the original dates, thus in parts of Shetland Christmas was celebrated on 6 January, while in Burghead, Moray, New Year&#8217;s Eve was celebrated on 11 January. I understand that when the new calendar was introduced to England there were riots as some folk believed that their life spans were being reduced!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Carolyn,

I can see you are quoting from the first edition of Heber&#039;s book. In the last sentence of the quote, Heber states that the 11 days were omitted in September 1751... It was actually 1752 not 1751.

The 1751 error was corrected in the second edition...but I&#039;m afraid he still maintains, quite wrongly, that there was eleven days difference between the Scottish and English calendar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carolyn,</p>
<p>I can see you are quoting from the first edition of Heber&#8217;s book. In the last sentence of the quote, Heber states that the 11 days were omitted in September 1751&#8230; It was actually 1752 not 1751.</p>
<p>The 1751 error was corrected in the second edition&#8230;but I&#8217;m afraid he still maintains, quite wrongly, that there was eleven days difference between the Scottish and English calendar.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn L. Barkley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn L. Barkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your comment. In 1600, Scotland did indeed establish January 1 as the first day of the year. Mark Heber, in Ancestral Trails (London, 1997 in association with the Society of Genealogists; Genealogical Publishing Company 1998), goes on to say, Ã¢â‚¬Å“An act of Parliament , Lord ChesterfieldÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Act of 1751, replaced this calendar [Julian] with the Gregorian calendar which was already used in Scotland and most of EuropeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦The Julian calendar was also eleven days out of step with the Gregorian calendar. When it was 18 May in Scotland, it was only 7 May in England. In order to bring England into line with Europe and Scotland, eleven dates (3-13 September) were omitted from September 1751 in England (so that 14 September 1751 followed 2 September).&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comment. In 1600, Scotland did indeed establish January 1 as the first day of the year. Mark Heber, in Ancestral Trails (London, 1997 in association with the Society of Genealogists; Genealogical Publishing Company 1998), goes on to say, Ã¢â‚¬Å“An act of Parliament , Lord ChesterfieldÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Act of 1751, replaced this calendar [Julian] with the Gregorian calendar which was already used in Scotland and most of EuropeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦The Julian calendar was also eleven days out of step with the Gregorian calendar. When it was 18 May in Scotland, it was only 7 May in England. In order to bring England into line with Europe and Scotland, eleven dates (3-13 September) were omitted from September 1751 in England (so that 14 September 1751 followed 2 September).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid there is an error in your page. Many web pages state that Scotland abandoned the Julian and adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1600.  This is a common misunderstanding. The fact is that Scotland changed the beginning of the year from the 25th of March to the 1st of January in 1600; she did not adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752 at the same time as England.

There was never 10 or 11 days difference between the Scottish and English calendar. The only difference was that from 1600 until 1752 Scotland&#039;s New Year started approximately 3 months before England; however, from the 25th of March to the 31st December each year both countries were in complete alignment i.e. when it was the 26 of March 1701 in Scotland, it was precisely the same date in England.



Happy to discuss.


Colin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid there is an error in your page. Many web pages state that Scotland abandoned the Julian and adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1600.  This is a common misunderstanding. The fact is that Scotland changed the beginning of the year from the 25th of March to the 1st of January in 1600; she did not adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752 at the same time as England.</p>
<p>There was never 10 or 11 days difference between the Scottish and English calendar. The only difference was that from 1600 until 1752 Scotland&#8217;s New Year started approximately 3 months before England; however, from the 25th of March to the 31st December each year both countries were in complete alignment i.e. when it was the 26 of March 1701 in Scotland, it was precisely the same date in England.</p>
<p>Happy to discuss.</p>
<p>Colin</p>
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